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Evangelical control of public schools = no choice

It is not easy to refuse to go along. Evangelicals, a minority among Hoosier Christians, might say a child may choose not to go along w/classroom-led prayer, ignore the difficulty of going against the “tide.” (NOTE: prayer in school never has been illegal.) 1/8

Each generation starts out as kids who face crap, some of which is different from what earlier generations faced & some crap is the same, e.g., puberty. In the 1960s I was lucky, as were a lot of the kids in our…

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Added by Mark Small on February 11, 2022 at 9:25pm — 1 Comment

Evangelicals lose out if kids are taught empathy & how to think

2/2/22, Huntington H.S., WV, from ABC News: students were ushered into an assembly & “told to close their eyes in prayer and urged to turn their lives over to Christ.” Students couldn’t leave “because the classroom was locked.” A spokesperson for the school, when asked ... 1/6



how an evangelical revival was required “during the school's daily COMPASS ‘noninstructional break,’” said, “‘It’s unfortunate that it happened... We don’t believe it will ever happen again.’” We have… Continue

Added by Mark Small on February 11, 2022 at 9:07am — No Comments

Purple for Parents Indiana seeks to impose its moral code on kids

Evangelicals (31%) aren’t a majority of Hoosier voters, citizens or Christians (72%), but act like they are a super-majority. There are (thankfully fewer) people like right-wing preacher/former GOP candidate Micah Beckwith. God, he claims, speaks w/Beckwith often. 1/10

Christians have a bad history of discriminating against each other. As recently 8/14/60, Eugene C Pulliam, publisher of The Indianapolis Star, wrote: “Why won’t Jack Kennedy be frank enough to admit publicly that it was…

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Added by Mark Small on February 9, 2022 at 7:39pm — No Comments

More on GOP chair Hupfer's 7 things GOP stands for; actually the last

The last of 7 points in a Feb 4 email from Indiana GOP chair Hupfer that purport to reply to President Biden’s question “What are Republicans for?” Item 6: “Equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.” This ignores reality. Teddy Roosevelt, a GOP Pres, saw this. 1/6

TR advocated for "a graduated inheritance tax on big fortunes." He argued that estate taxes are required "to preserve a measurable equality of opportunity." As we have seen, the more wealth goes into fewer hands, the…

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Added by Mark Small on February 8, 2022 at 2:37pm — 1 Comment

More on GOP chair Hupfer's things GOP stands for

To return once more to the Feb 4 email in which Indiana GOP chair Hupfer purportedly replied to President Biden’s question “What are Republicans for?” w/7 points. Item 6: “The sanctity of life.” That’s a grand idea for the Grand Old Party! We need to sponsor a study. 1/5

How many actual lives, as in people in existence, have been saved as a result of Roe v Wade? We have several categories. Incidence of violent crime dropped in 1991 nationwide, about the time males who would have been…

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Added by Mark Small on February 7, 2022 at 4:05pm — 1 Comment

When is a child's mind free from a racist parent

U.S. Const., Amend XIV protects a parent's right to raise their child. K.T.K. v. DCS, 989 N.E.2d 1225, 1230 (Ind. 2013). A parent's interest in care, custody & control of her/his child perhaps oldest of fundamental liberty interests. Troxel v Granville, 530 U.S. 57, 65 (2000). 1/7

“Racism” is “belief that some races are inherently superior to other races. ( ) Unfair treatment of people often including violence against them , because they belong to a different race from one’s own.”…

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Added by Mark Small on February 6, 2022 at 8:41pm — No Comments

More on GOP chair Hupfer's 7 things GOP stands for

In a Feb 4 email, Indiana GOP chair Hupfer replied to President Biden’s question “What are Republicans for?” w/7 points. Item 3: “Free, fair, and secure elections,” an implicit value of any U.S. political party, but a not-too-subtle swipe at the 2020 election & trump’s loss. 1/5



First, let’s cut the crap. An article, 2/3/21, by the Hoover Institution, affiliated w/Stanford, states allegations of voter fraud in 2020 “fail either because sometimes the ‘fact’ is inaccurate or it is… Continue

Added by Mark Small on February 6, 2022 at 7:55am — No Comments

More points, at random, from my platform

Random platform points. 5) Gun violence: gun ppls’ claim that gun ownership deters crime not been subj of peer review study. If claim is true gun ppl should welcome such studies that by law CDC cant sponsor. Indiana should fund such studies at our public universities here. 1/5



6) Environment: w/some of the dirtiest air & H2O in U.S. Indiana isn’t good 4 business. Air should be clean enough to breathe & H2O in our streams clean enough that a person can drink directly from them… Continue

Added by Mark Small on February 5, 2022 at 3:06pm — No Comments

More points, at random, from my platform

Random platform points. 5) Gun violence: gun ppls’ claim that gun ownership deters crime not been subj of peer review study. If claim is true gun ppl should welcome such studies that by law CDC cant sponsor. Indiana should fund such studies at our public universities here. 1/5



6) Environment: w/some of the dirtiest air & H2O in U.S. Indiana isn’t good 4 business. Air should be clean enough to breathe & H2O in our streams clean enough that a person can drink directly from them… Continue

Added by Mark Small on February 5, 2022 at 3:06pm — No Comments

Hupfer's wrong: Pres Biden's agenda is not "far Left" but I am far-Left

Indiana GOP chair Hupfer asserts: “Joe Biden, in an attempt to place blame for his floundering far-Left agenda, has been asking the rhetorical question: ‘What are Republicans for?’” Let’s be clear on a cpl of points. First, Pres Biden’s agenda is not “far-Left.” 1/7



I’m “far Left” & agenda incl protection of civil & voting rts, women’s reproductive rts, passage of ERA, Medicare for all, clean air & water, elimination of student debt, cut military budget & eliminate DH… Continue

Added by Mark Small on February 5, 2022 at 8:16am — No Comments

What does the GOP stand for? I'm running against bigotry & ignorance

I received an email from Indiana GOP chair Kyle Hupfer who asserts: “Joe Biden, in an attempt to place blame for his floundering far-Left agenda, has been asking the rhetorical question: ‘What are Republicans for?’ Of course, [Pres Biden] doesn't really want to know” 1/7

In 2020, GOP stuck w/2016 platform & its lead candidate added “core priorities.” Hupfer lists 7 items. Item One: “American exceptionalism”: our nation’s ideas & principles give us unique moral leadership &…

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Added by Mark Small on February 4, 2022 at 3:50pm — No Comments

God is invited to call in & be recorded

JR Ewing was all-American tone: winning’s no fun unless you cheat. Indiana’s education system skews rules in favor of schools that aren’t supposed to receive public funds. Ind.Const, Art. I §6 states: “No money shall B drawn from the treasury, 4 the benefit 1/5

of any religious/theological institution.” But today a lot of Indiana tax $$$ go 2 religious schools. Prof Sheila Kennedy’s blog a few days ago is accurate: “religious indoctrination academies supported by Indiana’s voucher…

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Added by Mark Small on February 2, 2022 at 9:28pm — No Comments

More on Micah Beckwith's talks with God: tonight at 7 on CDN

More on Rev Micah Beckwith’s talks w/his supreme deity will be discussed on Civil Discourse Now tonight, Feb 1, at 7 pm, on FB. Beckwith has posted videos over the past couple of years in which he quotes conversations. God is whom Beckwith quotes. 1/7

Beckwith needs to ask if he can record those conversations. God apparently has a lot to say about MAGA ppl & their goals, e.g. (as quoted by Beckwith): “I sent those riots to Washington.” And “What you saw yesterday [01/06/21] was my…

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Added by Mark Small on February 1, 2022 at 7:39am — No Comments

More on Micah Beckwith's conversations & my discussion with Rev Dr Sid Hall about the "God" of the right wing

The last couple of days I’ve blogged about Micah Beckwith’s conversations. God, it seems, has a dialogue with Beckwith and has confided “I sent those riots [meaning Jan 6] to Washington” and “What you saw yesterday [Jan 6] was my hand at work.” 1/5

Beckwith quotes from these talks, so it’s not Beckwith’s “inspiration” and description. Auditory hallucinations have many causes. Then again, if there is a realm of such beings, it is possible the source of the voice Beckwith hears is the…

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Added by Mark Small on January 31, 2022 at 4:22pm — No Comments

More on Micah Beckwith's talks with God

More on Rev Micah Beckwith’s talks w/his supreme deity should be noted. Beckwith posted a video, on FB, in which he quotes from a Jan 7, 2021, conversation he says he had. God, as quoted by Beckwith said: “I sent those riots to Washington.” 1/5

But wait! God also told Beckwith: “What you saw yesterday was my hand at work.” This should trouble us. From video of Jan 6, documents obtained by the House committee, interviews of & internet comments by insurrectionists, and Court…

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Added by Mark Small on January 31, 2022 at 8:12am — No Comments

Micah Beckwith's talks with the divine

Quotes must be accurate. Micah Beckwith, who was a candidate in the 2020 GOP primary for INCD5, has claimed he has spoken with “the Lord” on various matters. Beckwith, the day after the Jan 6 insurrection, reported in a Facebook post another such talk. 1/7

God sayeth to Beckwith: “I sent those riots to Washington.” Riot: “unlawful assembly that has begun to fulfill its common purpose of breaching the peace and terrorizing the public.” Black’s Law Dict., pocket ed., 1996, p. 554. God…

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Added by Mark Small on January 30, 2022 at 7:09pm — No Comments

Micah Beckwith's deity is incompetent

Rev Micah Beckwith has given his supreme deity a bad rap again. Beckwith, who ran in the GOP primary for INCD5 in 2020, says his god claims to have sent the insurrectionists to The Capitol on Jan 6, 2021. But any competent supreme deity should have pulled it off. 1/4

We can infer attributes of the types of ppl Beckwith’s supreme deity favors from 1) Video of Jan 6; 2) Interviews of & internet comments by insurrectionists; 3) Documents obtained by the House Committee on Jan 6th;…

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Added by Mark Small on January 30, 2022 at 9:55am — No Comments

Avoid today's right-wing super spreader event

Today, Jan 29 at 2 pm speakers will address a gathering at a mega-church on Indy’s northeast side. Topic: “SEL in Schools + Medical Freedom in Courts and Medicine.” SEL is “Social Emotional Learning,” & a current topic for right wing fear mongering. 1/5



People will hear why it is okay, and their right, not to wear a mask. One may reasonably infer masks will be few among attendees. The speakers & the topic(s) are important to know about. James Bopp, Jr., is a Terre Haute… Continue

Added by Mark Small on January 29, 2022 at 10:45am — No Comments

GOP Chair Hupfer's email about SCOTUS nominees ignores history

At the end of an email that discusses Justice Breyer’s retirement, Indiana State GOP chair Kyle Hupfer invited the recipient to “share it with a friend.” Hupfer derides President Biden as “likely nominate a candidate much more liberal than Justice Breyer.” 1/8

Mr Hupfer refers to Sen Mike Braun (R-IN) to say Pres Biden “should put forward a dedicated constitutionalist who respects the rule of law and our nation's system of checks and balances”; & quotes Sen Todd Young (R-IN) on…

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Added by Mark Small on January 28, 2022 at 7:40pm — No Comments

SEL's empathy addresses teenagers' depression vs evangelicals' intolerance of tolerance

SEL, Social Emotional Learning: children/adults acquire/apply knowl & skills 2 understand & manage emotions, set/achieve + goals, feel/show empathy, make/maintain + relationships & responsible decisions. (Website: Social and Emotional Learning Alliance for Indiana.) 1/7

Evangelicals, a minority (31%, Pew Center) in Indiana, want to control us. They oppose SEL & have an “event” scheduled on Saturday, Jan. 29, on “SEL in Schools + Medical Freedom in Courts and Medicine.”…

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Added by Mark Small on January 28, 2022 at 8:44am — No Comments

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