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"Christian values" are not "clearly there" in the Constitution Part 4

Posted on June 1, 2025 at 5:06pm 0 Comments

“America was absolutely founded on Christian values. You have to be ignorant to think otherwise. The writings of our Framers and the founding documents are very clear on that.” [FN1]

1) Blatant ambiguity (“Christian values” undercuts a conclusion that

2) is not supported by the facts. 1/11

IN’s Lt Gov says only Christians can be moral.[FN2] He & “maga” demean those of us who embrace “wokeness.” Neither Beckwith nor his maga buddies can claim our “woke” values as…

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Level playing fields & ground rules, part kinda 3

Posted on May 31, 2025 at 2:57pm 0 Comments

The metaphor of a level playing field is hard to apply to discourse about political issues & when one side shouts, lies and demeans the other, there’s no “field,” much less a level one. The far right & maga want power. They call progressives names, but cannot reply to arguments. 1/9

I won’t waste time on people steeped in red maga ink or who think IN’s Lt Gov didn’t make up “the Lord” taking credit for Jan 6. [FN1] The Lt Gov didn’t believe his own lies or he’d have demanded…

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Not founded as a Christian country, Part 2

Posted on May 30, 2025 at 8:56pm 0 Comments

IN’s Lt Gov [FN1] says ““America absolutely was founded on Christian values” & “writings of our Framers & founding documents are very clear on that.” [FN1] What are 1) “values” uniquely “Christian” and 2) “writings of our Framers & founding documents.” [FN2] 1/12

1) Beckwith says only Christians can be moral. [FN3] “Morals are societal norms about right and wrong. [] Values are personal beliefs & principles.” [FN4] Relevant documents & writings are “very clear,” so…

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Contrary to claims of the far right, this country was not founded as a Christian country Part I

Posted on May 30, 2025 at 7:29am 0 Comments

After 236 years, our Republic might die. If you think we cannot survive such extreme differences, you should read our history. Hamilton said all communities are divided between the many (who make bad decisions) & the few (rich and well born) [FN1] who should run things 1/10

because they cannot receive any advantage. [FN2] He did not foresee “the few” so craving greater power & wealth that they are blind to the country’s best interests. Finally, in 1787, hanging over the heads…

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At 6:20am on February 24, 2012, Kurt Lorey said…

Any other guests I should be aware of?

At 6:08am on February 24, 2012, Kurt Lorey said…

I can give it a shot. It would be mainly "shoot from the hip", though.

 
 
 

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